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Kevin Feige’s confusing comments about the current status of the Avengers in Phase 4 ignore reveals from Marvel’s own movies and shows.
Comments made by Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige on the current status of the Avengers ignore reveals from Marvel’s own movies and shows. Speaking on the state of the world in the timeframe of Captain America: New World Order, Feige confirmed that there isn’t an Avengers team. It would seem that Earth’s Mightiest Heroes truly are defunct in Phase 4 and at least part of Phase 5.
What’s going on with the Avengers has been one of the biggest questions about the MCU ever since the ending of Avengers: Endgame. The movie tied up numerous loose ends and properly closed out the stories of several key characters, but curiously left the future of the team itself ambiguous. Captain America, Black Widow, and Iron Man were all taken off the table permanently and Thor was temporarily removed from the equation. And while there were enough heroes left on Earth to keep some semblance of a team intact going into Phase 4, it wasn’t made clear within the story of the movie if that was really the case or not.
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In the years that followed, various moments have suggested that there actually is an Avengers team. If that’s true, they’ve been keeping a low profile. Several large-scale battles have taken place on Earth in Phase 4, yet the Avengers have been absent from all of them. But regardless of where they’ve been, there’s no doubt they’ll return in the years to come. It’s been confirmed that Earth’s Mightiest Heroes will be back on the big screen in 2025. They’ll be back in action in both Avengers: The Kang Dynasty and Avengers: Secret Wars. But judging by Feige’s remarks, this team has yet to form. The problem, though, is that this reveal contradicts what other MCU projects have implied about the Avengers.
There have been two instances in the MCU where it was suggested that the Avengers exist after Endgame. One was in Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings when Shang-Chi met Wong, Captain Marvel, and Bruce Banner in the mid-credits scene. Not only did this scene indicate that these three characters are on the current Avengers roster, but Marvel reinforced this notion themselves by calling Shang-Chi “Marvel’s New Avenger” in an official video. Clearly, the implication was that Wong, Carol, and Banner formally inducted Shang-Chi into the Avengers after the movie.
Another noteworthy moment where Marvel created the understanding that the Avengers were still active came in She-Hulk: Attorney At Law. In episode 2 of Jennifer Walters’ Disney+ series, the titular character was forced to entertain rumors that the Avengers declined to accept her as a member. Later on, Nikki secured a meeting between She-Hulk and a superhero fashion designer by falsely claiming that she was an Avenger now. Neither of these developments makes sense if there isn’t an Avengers team presently known to the public. There couldn’t be rumors of She-Hulk being refused membership for a team that doesn’t exist, and Nikki’s lie wouldn’t have worked if the Avengers aren’t around in Phase 4.
According to Feige, the new Captain America won’t have an existing Avengers team to rely on in New World Order. That does sound logical to a certain degree, considering that Endgame didn’t end with a confirmed Avengers roster, plus there’s been no in-universe mentions of a current lineup. But, enough has been said to support the idea that the group still operates in some capacity. For now, it’s hard to say if Feige’s comments should be interpreted to mean that the Avengers team alluded to by Shang-Chi and She-Hulk will disband before New World Order, or if the impression provided by the two MCU projects is just wrong somehow.
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Regardless of what happened with Iron Man, Captain America, Black Widow, and Scarlet Witch, the MCU still has more than enough heroes on hand for there to be an Avengers team in Phase 4. War Machine, Sam Wilson, Smart Hulk, Ant-Man, and several others should be available. With all the threats that the Earth has faced – both during the Infinity Saga and in recent movies – there’s no reason for there not to be a group of heroes standing guard over the planet. Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Spider-Man: No Way Home, and Eternals individually proved why it’s essential for the MCU’s heroes to ensure that the Avengers have an unwavering presence on Earth.
Furthermore, the MCU’s continued focus on the legacies of heroes like Steve Rogers, Natasha Romanoff, and Tony Stark are one more reason why the Avengers need to be brought back. Each of these three characters played roles in saving the world as Avengers. What they did demonstrated the team’s significance and showed just how important it is for the planet and for the legacy of the MCU’s fallen heroes for them to persevere, even if it means moving on without three of its flagship characters.
If the group seen in Shang-Chi’s mid-credits scene in fact wasn’t the Avengers, the MCU is free to start from scratch when it rebuilds the roster. When it does, it has a good chance of beginning the next era of the Avengers with Sam Wilson. It’s possible that Feige’s comments are a sign that New World Order will deal with Sam having to make his own Avengers since there isn’t one right now. Sam is arguably the strongest contender for a spot, especially since leading the Avengers is part of the Captain America legacy. If that’s the route Marvel takes, it can expand on Captain America 4's team with new members in The Kang Dynasty, Secret Wars, and perhaps other upcoming MCU installments.
As for who it can use to fill out the roster, Marvel has plenty of options it can pick from. Smart Hulk, She-Hulk, Thor, and Shang-Chi, and Captain Marvel are all characters in a position to be picked for the lineup. Others could be developed into candidates in future movies and shows, such as Dane Whitman (who has yet to become Black Knight), the new Black Panther, Hercules, and Monica Rambeau. Marvel also has some characters who haven’t been introduced yet who might be part of Marvel’s secret Avengers plans. With Destin Daniel Cretton directing Kang Dynasty and making a Wonder Man show, it’s not hard to imagine Simon Williams being on the team. All things considered, Marvel certainly won’t be limited on choices when the time comes to finally put the group together.
Nicholas Raymond is a staff movies & TV features writer for Screen Rant. He has a degree in journalism from the University of Montevallo, and is the author of the psychological thriller and time travel novel, “A Man Against the World.” Nicholas’ love for telling stories is inspired by his love for film noir, westerns, superhero movies, classic films, and ancient history. His favorite actors are Tyrone Power and Eleanor Parker. He can be reached by email at and on Twitter at @cnraymond91.


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